Handig lijstje voor als je zoek bent naar de juiste maat Bushing voor competition dies:
REDDING BUSHING RANGE CHART
Caliber Bushing Range
17 MACH IV
.190-.198
17 REMINGTON
.190-.198
20 TACTICAL
.226-.234
204 RUGER
.222-.230
22 HORNET
.234-.242
220 SWIFT
.251-.259
221 REM
.244-.252
22/250 REM
.245-.253
22/250 REM IMP 40º
.245-.253
222 REM Color
.244-.252
223 REM
.244-.252
223 REM IMP 40º
.244-.252
223 WSSM
.263-.271
22 BR REM
.243-.251
22 PPC USA
.241-.249
243 WIN
.267-.275
243 WIN IMP 40º
.267-.275
243 WSSM
.278-.286
6MM BR REM
.262-.270
6MM PPC USA
.260-.268
6MM REM
.267-.275
6MM REM IMP 40º
.267-.275
6MM TCU
.262-.270
6MM/22-250
.261-.269
6MM/284 WIN
.271-.279
25 WSSM
.290-.298
25/06 REM
.281-.289
25/06 REM IMP 40º
.281-.289
250 SAVAGE
.277-.285
257 ROBERTS
.281-.289
257 ROB IMP 40º
.281-.289
257 WBY MAG
.280-.284
264 WIN MAG
.289-.297
260 REM
.287-.295
6.5MM/308 WIN
.287-.295
6.5MM X 55
.288-.296
6.5MM/284 WIN
.291-.299
Caliber Bushing Range
6.5MM-06
.287-.295
6.8MM REM SPC
.297-.305
270 WIN
.299-.307
270 WSM
.305-.313
280 REM
.306-.314
280 REM IMP 40º
.306-.314
284 WIN
.311-.319
7 - 30 WATERS
.297-.305
7MM X 57 MAUSER
.312-.320
7MM/08 REM
.306-.314
7MM/08 IMP 40º
.306-.314
7MM BR REM
.300-.308
7MM IHMSA
.305-.313
7MM REM SA UM
.311-.319
7MM WSM
.312-.320
7MM REM MAG
.306-.314
7MM WBY MAG
.307-.313
7MM TCU
.300-.308
7MM STW
.307-.315
7MM REM ULTRA MAG
.313-.321
30-30 WIN
.321-.329
308 WIN
.335-.343
30-06 SPRINGFIELD
.331-.339
300 REM SA UM
.335-.343
300WSM
.335-.343
300 WBY MAG
.332-.336
300 WIN MAG
.331-.339
30/338 WIN MAG
.331-.339
300 REM ULTRA MAG
.335-.343
30-378 WBY MAG
.328-.336
7.62MM X 39
.328-.336
303 BRITISH
.329-.337
338-06
.362-.365
338 WIN MAG
.361-.365
338 REM ULTRA MAG
.362-.365
338 LAPUA MAG
.361-.369
Groetjes Pipo
Bushings
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Goose
- scherpschutter
- Berichten: 179
- Lid geworden op: 13-03-2011 00:09
Ik denk toch dat het verhaal niet compleet is Pipo. De maat van een bushing, liever sizing bushing. is afhankelijk van de huls die je gebruikt. uiteraard in samenhang met de kogel die je er in drukt.
De beste manier om dat te bepalen is een dummy maken, daarna de diameter van de neck opmeten met een digitale schuifmaat en 1/1000" er van af halen. Dat is dan de bushing (sizer ring) die voor jou gaat gelden. Even een voorbeeld, voor een 223R en een gemeten diameter van .243" ga je dus op .242" zitten. Voor grendelaars is dat genoeg en het spaart de huls nekken
Voor een semi als bv een AR15 is dit niet zwaar genoeg overigens, de kans dat door het geweld van de herlaad cyclus, de kogels en het kruit om je oren vliegt is niet denkbeeldig. Daar mag je ze gerust een paar 1/1000" krimpen. Voor een Garand M1 is het zeker niet genoeg.
Gebruik je hulzen van diverse fabriekanten, dan verschilt de dikte van de nekken, dat betekend dat de "krimp" bij de patronen onderling zwaarder of lichter is, wat zich dan weer vertaald in het schotbeeld. Door de zwaardere krimp zul de druk wat meer opbouwen en het schot zal dan wat hoger afkomen.
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Goose
De beste manier om dat te bepalen is een dummy maken, daarna de diameter van de neck opmeten met een digitale schuifmaat en 1/1000" er van af halen. Dat is dan de bushing (sizer ring) die voor jou gaat gelden. Even een voorbeeld, voor een 223R en een gemeten diameter van .243" ga je dus op .242" zitten. Voor grendelaars is dat genoeg en het spaart de huls nekken
Voor een semi als bv een AR15 is dit niet zwaar genoeg overigens, de kans dat door het geweld van de herlaad cyclus, de kogels en het kruit om je oren vliegt is niet denkbeeldig. Daar mag je ze gerust een paar 1/1000" krimpen. Voor een Garand M1 is het zeker niet genoeg.
Gebruik je hulzen van diverse fabriekanten, dan verschilt de dikte van de nekken, dat betekend dat de "krimp" bij de patronen onderling zwaarder of lichter is, wat zich dan weer vertaald in het schotbeeld. Door de zwaardere krimp zul de druk wat meer opbouwen en het schot zal dan wat hoger afkomen.
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Goose
S.N.A.F.U
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Pipo de Clown
- schutter
- Berichten: 95
- Lid geworden op: 25-03-2011 13:50
Goede uitleg Goose 
, Kuif in die foto die gansman heeft toegevoegt kun je hem goed zien zitten: de bushing of in nl kun je het een bus noemen.
Ze zitten trouwens niet in iedere die, welk type dieset gebruik jij Kuifje?
Ik heb ook meerdere maten bushings per caliber. Wissel eigenlijk nooit van bushing schiet altijd met zelfde merk en soort huls.
Maar andere kop/merk zou ook verschil in nekspanning kunnen opleveren. Er zit verschil in diameter tussen merk A en merk B.
Dit lijstje heb ik hier trouwens meer als reverentielijst opgezet, zodat je een indicatie heb welke je nodig heb..
, Kuif in die foto die gansman heeft toegevoegt kun je hem goed zien zitten: de bushing of in nl kun je het een bus noemen. Ze zitten trouwens niet in iedere die, welk type dieset gebruik jij Kuifje?
Ik heb ook meerdere maten bushings per caliber. Wissel eigenlijk nooit van bushing schiet altijd met zelfde merk en soort huls.
Maar andere kop/merk zou ook verschil in nekspanning kunnen opleveren. Er zit verschil in diameter tussen merk A en merk B.
Dit lijstje heb ik hier trouwens meer als reverentielijst opgezet, zodat je een indicatie heb welke je nodig heb..
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Pipo de Clown
- schutter
- Berichten: 95
- Lid geworden op: 25-03-2011 13:50
Hier nog even de uitgebreide uitleg van Redding, in het Engels
There has been some confusion regarding the correct diameter bushing that should be used with Redding Bushing Style Sizing Dies. The most common misconception is that the bushing diameter is determined by the neck diameter of fired cases or the neck diameter of the chamber that the reloaded ammunition will be fired in. The bushing diameter is related to the chamber neck diameter, but only indirectly, in that the loaded cartridges must have adequate clearance at the neck to allow the bullet to be released properly upon firing.*
The easiest way to determine the proper diameter bushing is to measure the neck diameter of several loaded or dummy cartridges with an accurate micrometer. (These dummy cartridges can be loaded with your old set of dies or a borrowed set.) Then, simply subtract 0.001" from the cartridge that had the smallest average measurement. This will allow for a slight amount of spring back and create a proper press fit for the bullet.
Another method of determining bushing size, is to measure the neck wall thickness of the cartridge cases with a ball type or tubing micrometer. Double this measurement and add the bullet diameter to calculate the neck diameter of a loaded cartridge. As above, subtract 0.001" from this figure to determine bushing size. This method is the least desirable of the two, as a ball micrometer is fairly expensive and more difficult to read consistently than a conventional micrometer.
If you're starting with new cases, the neck wall thickness can be determined as above with a ball micrometer, or you can seat boat-tail bullets in a few cases and measure their neck diameter. Generally, the neck diameter of new cases is small enough to hold a bullet without sizing. As a last resort, you can measure the neck wall thickness of the cases with a caliper. Be aware that you may not select the correct bushing on the first try when using a caliper to measure neck wall thickness, due to the reduced measuring accuracy of the caliper.
The above methods of determining bushing size require that the cases being sized have a fairly uniform neck wall thickness or have been neck turned. If the neck wall thickness varies more than 0.002", it may be necessary to use a bushing a couple of thousandths smaller than your calculations indicate, and then use a size button in the die to determine the final inside neck diameter.
After loading your first few cartridges, it's a good idea to test the grip that the case neck is exerting on the bullet. The simplest method to perform this test is to press the tip of the loaded cartridge against the edge of your reloading bench with moderate pressure. The bullet should not be seated deeper in the case if you have sized at least one caliber of the case neck. If the bullet is seated deeper in the case, switch to the next smaller size bushing and start again.
It has come to our attention through customer calls and our own use of the bushing style sizing dies that in certain instances, a given neck sizing bushing will produce a case neck diameter that can be several thousandths of an inch smaller than the actual diameter of the bushing. This idiosyncrasy occurs when the neck diameter of the fired case is a great deal larger than the diameter of the neck sizing bushing, such as occurs when factory chambers are on the large side of the tolerance range and the brass is on the thin side. Typically, we have not noticed any problems until the case neck is reduced more than 0.008-0.010".
Solutions include, increasing bushing diameter to compensate and/or the use of a size button. Reducing the neck diameter in two smaller steps by using an intermediate diameter bushing will also help. More concentric necks will also result using this method, as the case necks are stressed less during sizing. Don't forget to properly chamfer the inside and outside of the case mouths and apply a light coating of lubricant to the case necks before sizing.
To determine bushing range for standard calibers see "Bushing Range Chart"
If you have any further questions, please feel free to call our technical support line.
* We recommend that the neck diameter of the largest loaded cartridges measure at least 0.002-0.003" smaller than fired cases measured at the same location. This ensures that there is a clearance of at least 0.001-0.0015" all around the neck of the loaded cartridge. This clearance allows the case neck to expand and safely release the bullet upon firing.
There has been some confusion regarding the correct diameter bushing that should be used with Redding Bushing Style Sizing Dies. The most common misconception is that the bushing diameter is determined by the neck diameter of fired cases or the neck diameter of the chamber that the reloaded ammunition will be fired in. The bushing diameter is related to the chamber neck diameter, but only indirectly, in that the loaded cartridges must have adequate clearance at the neck to allow the bullet to be released properly upon firing.*
The easiest way to determine the proper diameter bushing is to measure the neck diameter of several loaded or dummy cartridges with an accurate micrometer. (These dummy cartridges can be loaded with your old set of dies or a borrowed set.) Then, simply subtract 0.001" from the cartridge that had the smallest average measurement. This will allow for a slight amount of spring back and create a proper press fit for the bullet.
Another method of determining bushing size, is to measure the neck wall thickness of the cartridge cases with a ball type or tubing micrometer. Double this measurement and add the bullet diameter to calculate the neck diameter of a loaded cartridge. As above, subtract 0.001" from this figure to determine bushing size. This method is the least desirable of the two, as a ball micrometer is fairly expensive and more difficult to read consistently than a conventional micrometer.
If you're starting with new cases, the neck wall thickness can be determined as above with a ball micrometer, or you can seat boat-tail bullets in a few cases and measure their neck diameter. Generally, the neck diameter of new cases is small enough to hold a bullet without sizing. As a last resort, you can measure the neck wall thickness of the cases with a caliper. Be aware that you may not select the correct bushing on the first try when using a caliper to measure neck wall thickness, due to the reduced measuring accuracy of the caliper.
The above methods of determining bushing size require that the cases being sized have a fairly uniform neck wall thickness or have been neck turned. If the neck wall thickness varies more than 0.002", it may be necessary to use a bushing a couple of thousandths smaller than your calculations indicate, and then use a size button in the die to determine the final inside neck diameter.
After loading your first few cartridges, it's a good idea to test the grip that the case neck is exerting on the bullet. The simplest method to perform this test is to press the tip of the loaded cartridge against the edge of your reloading bench with moderate pressure. The bullet should not be seated deeper in the case if you have sized at least one caliber of the case neck. If the bullet is seated deeper in the case, switch to the next smaller size bushing and start again.
It has come to our attention through customer calls and our own use of the bushing style sizing dies that in certain instances, a given neck sizing bushing will produce a case neck diameter that can be several thousandths of an inch smaller than the actual diameter of the bushing. This idiosyncrasy occurs when the neck diameter of the fired case is a great deal larger than the diameter of the neck sizing bushing, such as occurs when factory chambers are on the large side of the tolerance range and the brass is on the thin side. Typically, we have not noticed any problems until the case neck is reduced more than 0.008-0.010".
Solutions include, increasing bushing diameter to compensate and/or the use of a size button. Reducing the neck diameter in two smaller steps by using an intermediate diameter bushing will also help. More concentric necks will also result using this method, as the case necks are stressed less during sizing. Don't forget to properly chamfer the inside and outside of the case mouths and apply a light coating of lubricant to the case necks before sizing.
To determine bushing range for standard calibers see "Bushing Range Chart"
If you have any further questions, please feel free to call our technical support line.
* We recommend that the neck diameter of the largest loaded cartridges measure at least 0.002-0.003" smaller than fired cases measured at the same location. This ensures that there is a clearance of at least 0.001-0.0015" all around the neck of the loaded cartridge. This clearance allows the case neck to expand and safely release the bullet upon firing.